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(New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitism Tirade

by prisonbreak, Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:09:58 AM EST

Every Jewis American needs to watch this clip, especially those more liberal Jewish democrats(Steve M?). This is really really scary stuff.

The pattern should be very unsettling for Jews. Dailykooks is becoming a magnet for anti-semitism liberals encouraged by the leaders of that site(Will some of them jump up and down if Israel is wiped off the map?); Obama's 20-year spiritual mentor Pastor Wright's vicious anti-semitism sentiment as demonstrated by a variety of sermons; Obama is surrounded by the most anti-Israel foreign policy advisors in recent history.

If I were a Jew, I would be very very worrie once Obama and his cronies got to the Wright House. Every Jewish voter needs to watch Pastor Wright's sermon before you press the button for Obama. It's about your destiny, your future.

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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (2.00 / 0)

Obama had this man marry him, baptize his children, called him his spiritual mentor, had him as part of his spiritual advising committee, read his work and listened to his tapes while in Harvard Law, came up with the title of his NYT best selling book from his sermon, has been a member of his church for over 20 years...

yet did not know he held such heinous beliefs.

by njsketch on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:14:42 AM EST

Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (2.00 / 4)

An inability to detect a difference between criticism of Israel and criticism of Jews themselves is a sign of Republicanism, not one of intelligence.

by Cycloptichorn on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:19:20 AM EST

Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (2.00 / 5)

Agreed. C'mon my fellow Hillary Supporters, stop being petty. Obama supporters did it earlier; we don't have to.

by texasdextrous on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:23:21 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

We can be petty on this issue too.

What about when HRC had listened politely in the West Bank city of Ramallah as Suha Arafat unleashed a torrent of accusations against Israel?

"It is important to point out here the severe damage caused by the intensive daily use of poison gas by Israeli forces in the past years that has led to an increase in cancer cases against Palestinian women and children," Mrs Arafat said. She added that 80% of water resources were contaminated, and that the ground was full of chemicals banned internationally.

HRC did nothing at the time of the comments. Then the next day she still didn't "denounce" the comments:

Mrs Clinton was responding to accusations by Suha Arafat that Israel had contaminated Palestinian areas with poison gas. "Everyone who supports this (peace) effort should refrain from inflammatory rhetoric and from baseless accusations... that could in any way adversely affect what the parties are attempting to achieve,"

Now more than eight years later I demand that HRC must unequivocally and specifically denounce and reject Mrs. Arafat, or else we'll have proof that she hates Israel.

--1jphusseinb-- she's not a monster, as far as I know--diplomat Sinbad, making the world safe--all bluster, no cattle--

by 1jpb on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:49:31 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (2.00 / 1)

Is it really? To my mind repudiating them for a narrow political calculation would indeed be a lapse of judgement, and integrity:

To Obama's credit, he hasn't repudiated anyone from his past. His campaign strategist, David Axelrod, admits that Obama and Ayers are "friendly." And Obama denounced Wright's comments without rejecting the man himself. How can he? Wright played an important role in shaping him as a politician. Ayers and Khalidi nudged him along the way. To apologize for knowing them would be to apologize for who he is: an African-American, a Christian, a city dweller, an academic, a liberal. Most of those would be exotic qualities in a president. And maybe that's the real problem.

Edward McClelland - The crazy uncles in Obama's attic Salon 18 Mar 08

Is the problem who Obama associates with or who he is?

by Shaun Appleby on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 03:31:19 AM EST
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Really scary stuff is the Nuremberg rally (2.00 / 1)

This is not "really scary". It's pointing out that israeli policies with respect to palestinians and israeli arabs are racist (true, in part), and that there is a connection between the arab-israeli conflict and islamic terrorism (also true).

Grow up. And, yes, I'm Jewish.

by bartimaeus blue on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 07:29:04 AM EST
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Re: Really scary stuff is the Nuremberg rally (none / 0)

I basically agree with you.

by Shaun Appleby on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:58:43 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

I'm with you. Criticism of Israel does not equal anti-semitism per se.

by Montague on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 04:25:12 PM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

If Obama gets the nomination, he could be the first Democrat since the New Deal not to get a majority of the Jewish vote. The exodus of Jews, Latinos, Asians, white women, and Reagan democrats from the Democratic Party could be devastating to our nation's political future.

by markjay on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:19:34 AM EST

Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (2.00 / 0)

The exodus of Reagan democrats???

By definition, they haven't been with the part for almost 30 years.

by Trent on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:22:47 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

OK, touche. Let's say "blue collar workers." I think Hillary has a good chance to hold on to a lot of the lunchpail crowd, but Obama will lose them to McCain.

by markjay on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:32:37 AM EST
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How do you know this about Reagan Democrats (none / 0)

I voted for Reagan twice. Haven't voted for another Republican for president since. So, I'm an original Reagan Democrat. Plenty of us are still around and voting Democrat. Good chance that I won't this year if Obama gets the nomination so the prior poster's point with regard to me is correct.

by lombard on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:35:09 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

Perhaps not the first. I was reading an article outlining the eerie parellel between McGovern's fateful presidential run and the current state of Obama movement.

McGovern got all the excitement of anti-war youth, AAs, but he deeply alienated the so-called 'silent majority' (the Jews, the blue-collar, other minority groups) of the party. The result: a sounding defeat. On the other hand, these voters did not really abandon the democratic party since they gained seats in both the senate and the congress.

We'll see how this will pan out.

by prisonbreak on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:24:32 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

Yea, there might be some parallels, but the one massive parallel that isn't present is massive, antagonistic protests, radical ideology and the whole "free love" hippy movement.

The Obama campaign doesn't come close to being so confrontational.

(Unless you're a Hillary supporter on MyDD. Then, he eats babies and kicks puppies.)

by Trent on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:27:04 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

The electoral system has a way to amplify a victory or a defeat. A swing of 2 percentage in popular votes may mean a swing of 5-10 states. I haven't researched McGovern's popular votes, but I doubt it's as dismal as his 49-state defeat.

by prisonbreak on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:31:46 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

Think again. McGovern lost the popular vote by 26 points.

by Deeg on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:02:59 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

I don't think it's going to be devastating. It's going to be exciting. I'm hungry for a new coaltion, I'm tired of the same old, same old white limousine liberals...

by prisonbreak on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:28:15 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's (none / 0)

I myself know a number of Jews who have voted Democratic their entire lives but will be voting for McCain in November if Obama is the Democratic nominee, and some of them are very passionate Democrats as well.

by musicpvm on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:22:35 AM EST

Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's (2.00 / 5)

And I know some Jews who would rather vote for McCain than Hillary.

And I know some Jews who will vote for the Democrat no matter what.

And I know Jews who will vote for McCain no matter what.

And I know some Jews who won't vote.

I guess that settles the election. Back to your regularly scheduled program.

by Trent on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:24:39 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's (none / 0)

Are they racist; is it the Muslim email thing? Or what. B/c McCain is a huge departure from anything that traditional Dems care about. It's inconceivable that one could abandon every policy position that they cared about over such petty shit as the differences between Obama and Clinton.

by Cycloptichorn on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:39:36 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's (none / 0)

It's not just because of differences between Obama and Clinton, several believe Obama has anti-Semitic and anti-Israel views due to the company he's kept in the past.

by musicpvm on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:54:39 AM EST
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re (none / 0)

Well Obama may or may not win the Jewish vote but he will definatley lose Latinos to McCain

by rossinatl on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:28:34 AM EST

This is (none / 0)

just more of the same from this pastor who does not seem to realize that Words with substance DO Matter and Do have "blowback" potential.

I have a couple of things that are bugging me.

The first one is... When more and more FEAR and SCARE shit comes from faux news and then supposed "liberals/Democrats and Progressives" continually use the faux news/drudge/hannity/etc. fear and scare crap to "prove" something... well I think is it BULLSHIT!

The second is.... Fear fear fear is what GW BUSH and his crew did and still do!

So in this diary, we get prisonbreak spreading FEAR and the pastor also spreading FEAR!

I am so SICK OF THIS SHIT FROM ALL SIDES!

Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:31:13 AM EST

Re: This is (2.00 / 2)

But come on, it's not like Obama was writing Rev Wright's speeches.

I think it's really sanctimonious to belabor the fact that Obama attended the church, a church that apparently has an entremely vibrant community. Sure, he said that outrageous things, but to be frank, I have been able to see the context in all of the comments. And none of them really bother me.

We're just looking for the opportunity to be offended. It's really sad.

by Trent on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:36:59 AM EST
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Re: This is (none / 0)

Did you read my comment?

Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:15:42 AM EST
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Re: This is (none / 0)

How do you feel about HRC spreading fear at 3:00 AM?

--1jphusseinb-- she's not a monster, as far as I know--diplomat Sinbad, making the world safe--all bluster, no cattle--

by 1jpb on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:55:36 AM EST
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I am going to ask you (none / 0)

Did you read my comment? It should explain how I feel unless you are only seeing in it what you want to see.

Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:16:32 AM EST
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Re: I am going to ask you (none / 0)

I read it. It seemed limited in scope, i.e. it was limited to online activity. So, I was curious to know what you felt about the dissemination of fear from the candidates themselves.

I remain curious.

--1jphusseinb-- she's not a monster, as far as I know--diplomat Sinbad, making the world safe--all bluster, no cattle--

by 1jpb on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:57:28 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (2.00 / 2)

It's sad, the most basic strategy you people are using is trying to drive apart different groups of people. Playing Latinos against blacks. Women against men. Catholics against Protestants. And now you're trying to drive a wedge between Jewish Americans and Obama.

Just sad...

by Skaje on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:32:34 AM EST

Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (2.00 / 1)

Hey, I'm Jewish. I'm not trying to drive a wedge between myself and anybody. Obama has put the wedge there through his stances and actions.

by markjay on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:36:10 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

Please share Obama's stances and actions that have turned you off as someone who is Jewish.

by Trent on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:38:05 AM EST
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yeah (none / 0)

Yeah. We should all worship at our Messiah's feet, and be united with him.
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by prisonbreak on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:36:25 AM EST
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Re: yeah (none / 0)

No you should vote for Hillary Clinton and support her candidacy with something other than smear tactics. Do you honestly believe....honestly...that Barack Obama is of the same mind as Wright?

If not, delete your diary.

By the way...what happens in Hillary's church. I heard they speak in tongues.

We don't need a thinker. We need a doer: someone who'll act without considering the consequences. (H.J. Simpson)

by Newcomer on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:43:00 AM EST
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Re: yeah (none / 0)

I can tell you my own feeling. Yes. I do believe they share the same ideology. I had this suspicion about Obama from day one. I always believe he's using 'unity' theme to hide his real radical ideology. I feel very threatened.

by prisonbreak on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:59:36 AM EST
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Answer this question (2.00 / 1)

Why does he choose to raise his daughters in the church of. Rev. Wright? Do you think this education will contribute to their development of a post-racial attitude his supporters keep touting?

by lombard on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:38:04 AM EST
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Personally, I don't think he shares Wright's views (none / 0)

I think he's an athiest and a shameless politician, who will do anything to further his ambitions, such as but not limited to being a newb in town who connected himself to a fiery black Christian preacher, because that's what he figured he needed to do to win an election to public office in the South side of Chicago.

He's an athiest from Hawaii, dressed up as a Christian from Chicago, because he knows that Illinois voters would not elect an athiest from Hawaii.

That's why he's connected to Wright. And that's why he can't denounce Wright - he'd lose all that street cred in the African American community that he's built up over 20 years of faking it for the locals.

My name is Barney Gumble, and I'm an alcoholic. Lisa: This is a girl scouts meeting. Barney: Is it, or is it you girls can't admit that you have a problem?

by PJ Jefferson on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:16:50 AM EST
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Re: Personally, I don't think he shares Wright's v (none / 0)

You say atheist like its a bad thing... Atheists are not evil you know. They are as moral and ethical as any other human being. I would be happy to vote for any qualified atheist candidate.

by phemfrog on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 12:09:58 PM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

The most insidious anti-semistim site kooks is the biggest O backer. Their regulars have been railing against Jews all the time.

by prisonbreak on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:38:22 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

Who and what specifically?

(And guess what?!?!? When 50% of the Democratic electorate supports Hillary and the other 50% supports Barack, they BOTH are going to have kooks and bigots and criminals and general bastards in their list of supporters. Everyone needs to grow up.)

by Trent on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:40:58 AM EST
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not buying this one. (2.00 / 2)

pastor wright needs to be more careful when saying things "have connections to 9/11", agreed. the thing is, i agree with him that american policy was an indirect contributing factor (especially stationing troops in saudi arabia, which pissed bin laden off something fierce). more to the point, the US support for the afghan mujahadeen against the USSR was also a contributing factor. so there's some truth there.

there's also another indirect connection via US support for israel, which also plainly plays poorly in islamic countries, but inferring anti-semitism from this short sample is a BIG stretch.

by campskunk on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:39:13 AM EST

Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (2.00 / 1)

If I were a Jew, I would be very very worrie once Obama and his cronies got to the Wright House. Every Jewish voter needs to watch Pastor Wright's sermon before you press the button for Obama. It's about your destiny, your future.

Please. Obama is a secret anti-Semite plotting to take the white house with his message of unity only to push an anti-Semitic agenda once he wins. As a general rule, big claims require big evidence. You don't have it. This line of reasoning is beyond run-of-the-mill bad inference, it is bordering on tinfoil hat bad inference.

"Don't let it end this way; tell them I said something." -the last words of Pancho Villa

by shef on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:51:15 AM EST

Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

I am not an Obama supporter. Criticism of a country for it's policies is not the same as criticizing it's religion.

by Zorkon on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:58:15 AM EST

Re: (New Video) (2.00 / 1)

Actually, if anything, if I were Jewish, I'd be offended that you're calling all Jews Isrealis. While some Jews do have that position, many of the secular ones consider themselves American first.

by texasdextrous on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:58:43 AM EST

Re: (New Video) (none / 0)

But can you seriously decry Jewish Americans' historical affinity with Israel?

Replace 'Israel' with 'Africa' in Pastor Wright's sermon, see how that will go with African Americans?

by prisonbreak on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:01:30 AM EST
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Re: (New Video) (none / 0)

Last I knew, African Americans weren't so up in arms about criticism over the US approach to ethnic conflicts in Darfur Kenya, etc.

by davisb on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:05:01 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

Obama will lose neither Jews nor Latinos nor Asians for that matter.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-o ew-barreto7feb07,0,6253659.story

That article says it all.

As for Asians, I guess that's why Obama lost the most Asian state in the country? Oh wait. SUSA had him over 60% in Hawaii while Clinton was ahead by 4( I don't buy this btw, just like I don't buy Rasmussen having her up only 3 in Conneticut).

by DemGenii on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:03:35 AM EST

Don't fool yourself with an OpEd from (none / 0)

the LA Times. Democrats don't own our vote. You forget that GWB got a large share of the Latino vote and when Latinos wake up and realize that the candidate they supported in record numbers is not going to be there. Barack has no history or goodwill with us and many will vote for McCain over Obama and many of us will be so disenfranchised that we'll just sit it out. The only other candidate besides Hillary to get this much of the Latino vote in the past was Bill Clinton. We don't owe Barack anything and we're certainly not mindless drones that are just going to vote for him because he's the only D on the ticket.

by LatinoVoter on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:34:41 AM EST
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Patriotism (none / 0)

What bothers me most about Wright´s comments is how it reflects on Obama´s patriotism. To me this is not about racism, but patriotism. I know Obama is going to try to bury this as part of racism - but it is not. It is about his fitness to be comander in chief.

Elvis has left the building.

by True Blue Dem on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:04:43 AM EST

Re: Patriotism (none / 0)

UGH...not this patriotism BS again... You seriously think that a man who has spent his life in public service and is running for president is not patriotic. Give me a f-ing break. What more do you want him to do to show his patriotism? Wear a lapel pin?

I would go so far as to say that all of the candidates for president right now are patriots in their own ways, even if we disagree with their policies. Even McCain. and i wouldn't vote for him if you paid me. That doesn't mean he isn't a patriot.

by phemfrog on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 12:16:54 PM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (2.00 / 1)

Well, since you mentioned me by name... but I feel like I'm missing something.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:06:55 AM EST

Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

How's it feel to be our most prominent "liberal jewish democrat"?

by DPW on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:11:17 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

I wear it like a badge... although hopefully not the kind of badge President Obama would make me wear.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:16:00 AM EST
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what exactly does that mean? (none / 0)

-- be excellent to each other

by kindthoughts on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:28:40 AM EST
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Re: what exactly does that mean? (none / 0)

It's not funny if you have to explain it.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:32:05 AM EST
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my understanding (none / 0)

if that you are referring to wearing a a yellow star of david?

-- be excellent to each other

by kindthoughts on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:45:11 AM EST
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Re: my understanding (none / 0)

You sadden me immensely.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 02:09:18 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

You were being sarcastic but in this charged, emotional atmosphere it was sadly misconstrued. Still, I like seeing 'President Obama' in print, did your hand tremble as you wrote it?

by Shaun Appleby on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 03:44:31 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

Part of the point of clowning around is seeing if anyone will take it seriously. That doesn't make it less depressing when they do!

As for the tremble, I'm not sure if you meant that in a good way or a bad way! The only thing that scares me is President McCain.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:04:53 AM EST
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Re: (New Video)Pastor Wright's Fierce Anti-semitis (none / 0)

Either one, I guess, I was just kidding too.

by Shaun Appleby on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:00:05 PM EST
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You're kidding right? This is not antisemitic. (2.00 / 1)

This is (at worst) anti-Israel. Andif you don't see connections between 9-11 and the arab-israeli conflict (and the israeli-palestinian conflict), you're not paying attention.

And, yes, I'm Jewish.

by bartimaeus blue on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 07:26:48 AM EST

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